Las Vegas, Nevada Church
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"Go ahead, prove me wrong!!"          MP3

Had a gentleman send me a series of hot, raging e-mails proclaiming that though he knew this was God's true church and that there were no false ministers in its ranks, we were completely and totally wrong on one of our core doctrines and beliefs.  He then waxed eloquent with what he saw the truth to be.  Rather than making a straight-forward and sincere inquiry about the subject, he peppered me with accusatory questions and statements as if I were the defendant in a murder trial and he, the hot-blooded prosecutor who has never lost a case.

Rather than approaching me in a sincere quest for truth and understanding, he laid out in some detail what it was that he now believed.  He then challenged me to "prove him wrong!!"  The problem with this rather forceful request, is the fact that God's church has no biblical mandate or instruction to prove people wrong about any contrary belief they might hold.  All we can do is state what it is we believe out of the Word of God.  This is what the church is doing for this gentleman.

Can the Ministry Convince You of Anything?

It has long been my belief and proclamation that the church has no power to convince anyone of anything.  All we can do is tell the public what we believe.  All a minister can do for the congregation is expound the Word of God and discuss those things we hold in common belief.  Fact is, however, there are two kinds of convincing and I want to take this opportunity to define them both.

Physical Convincing

Just about all of us have the ability or tools to convince another of some subject.  I suppose that I could guide you up to an electric fence and convince you that touching it will result in great bodily harm.  I could simply throw an object up against the fence and we could watch the sparks fly.  I suspect you would be thoroughly convinced.  Taking something more complex, I might be able to sit you down to a chessboard and convince you that playing an aggressive game will reap more wins than playing defensively.  I would probably have to show you several entire games where each approach is used and delve into minute tactics of the game, but I believe I could prevail in convincing you in time.  However, in the spiritual realm, I, by biblical decree and definition, have no such power, in and of myself.

Spiritual Convincing

God gives His church two great commissions.  One is to proclaim the gospel to the world and the other is to feed the congregation in the ways of the Salvation Process, the central theme of the Word of God.  In neither commission are we instructed or promised the power to convince anyone of anything in and of ourselves.  The ministry has no power to convince nor to convert.  Garner Ted Armstrong in approximately 50 years of preaching never converted one living human being.  Jesus Christ had a ministry of three and one-half years and He never once shared a meal with a converted person.  As we all know, conversion comes with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and that came for the disciples and others after Jesus had risen from the grave and ascended into the third heaven.  All of the instruction He gave to the disciples made full sense after they received the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost.

The ministry can preach with great power with the Word of God in their hand, quoting scripture for every statement they make, but it is the work of the Holy Spirit that does the actual convincing and which gives the clarity of truth.  We see this in the reading of 1 Corinthians 2:14 and 1 John 2:20.  The first verse tells us that one without the Holy Spirit cannot understand spiritual things.  The second confirms to us that unction [endowment by the power of God] comes by way of the Holy Spirit.

Titus 1:9 and Jude 15

Now someone might point out these two verses which seem to be saying that the ministry does have the power to convince.  Let us take a closer look...

Titus 1:9
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

The meaning here is to "confute" or admonish the gainsayer.  To confute is to prove to be wrong or in error; refute decisively.  To "refute" is to overthrow by argument or proof.  In other words, the minister presents his case using the word of God.  He presents the scriptures, commentaries and word meanings to the individual, but he makes this case to the Holy Spirit in that individual.  It is the Holy Spirit that imparts the proof to the mind and does the actual convincing.  We can see this right in the verse.  It says that the minister does his convincing "by sound doctrine" which we have already established can only be understood by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Notice the commentary...

Titus 1:9
[Both to exhort and to convince] To persuade them, or to bring them over to your views by kind exhortation, and by the instruction which shall convince. The former method is to be used where men know the truth, but need encouragement to follow it; the latter, where they are ignorant, or are opposed to it. Both exhortation and argument are to be used by the ministers of religion.

[The gainsayers] Opposers Literally, those who speak against; that is, against the truth. ~from Barnes' Notes

Clearly the convincing is done by and through the Holy Spirit.

Jude 15
To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

In this verse, the word "convince" has the meaning "to convict" the ungodly of their wrong doing by comparing their deeds to the Word of God.  Notice the commentary...

Jude 15
[And to convince all] The word "convince we now use commonly in a somewhat limited sense, as meaning 'to satisfy' a man's own mind" either of the truth of some proposition, or of the fact that he has done wrong, as being in this latter sense synonymous with the word "convict." This "conviction" is commonly produced by argument or truth, and is not necessarily followed by any sentence of disapprobation, or by any judicial condemnation. But this is clearly not the sense in which the word is used here. The purpose of the coming of the Lord will not be to convince men in that sense, though it is undoubtedly true that the wicked will see that their lives have been wrong; but it will be to pronounce a sentence on them as the result of the evidence of their guilt. The Greek word which is here used occurs nowhere else in the New Testament. ~from Barnes' Notes

Therefore I cannot and will not attempt to prove this gentleman wrong other than to show him our established doctrine.  The Salvation Process denotes a special relationship between the firstfruit human and both God, the Father and Jesus Christ working through the power of the Holy Spirit in that person's heart and mind.

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth [it] not, neither knoweth [it]: but ye know [it]; for [it, the Spirit of God] dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. –John 14:17

 
 

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