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 Letter Answering Department Survey:  Romans 8:30 –Predestination, call, justification and glorification                 
                                                                                                                                                                  
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SUBJECT:  Romans 8:30 –Predestination, call, justification and glorification

 

QUESTIONS:  What are the definitions of these 4 terms.  Who has been called?  How is one justified?  Has anyone been glorified?  The word “glorified” is in the past tense; does this mean people have been glorified already?

 

ANSWER:

 

Romans 8:30

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

You have two, completely different concepts, mixed up.  The concepts of foreknown/foreordained is totally different from the justified and glorified.

 

FOREKNOWN:  By God that He would call you

 

FOREORDAINED:  It is appointed before you were born that you would be called, as if it were put on a specific schedule as to time and place you would be called.

 

JUSTIFIED:  A person is justified when his or her sins are forgiven, has received the Holy Spirit and is doing good works by means of Jesus Christ living through the person.  We call all this "Faith".  We are justified by Faith.

 

GLORIFIED:  This takes place when we are changed to Spirit Beings.

 

Following now are some excerpts from our Doctrinal Statements which will give you some insight to Justified and Glorified:

 

Once a person has repented and professed a sincere faith in the person, message and sacrifice of Christ, he may be baptized by immersion for the forgiveness of sins.  This baptism is a type of Christ's death, burial and resurrection, which is our means of reconciliation to God (Romans 5:10) since He paid the death penalty for our sins.  Baptism symbolizes the death and burial of one's old sinful way of life and the beginning of a totally new spirit-led life of obedience and submission to God.  After baptism the new convert receives the Holy Spirit through the laying-on-of-hands ceremony performed in accordance with the commands and examples of the apostles (Acts 8:12-17; 19:5-6).

 

God's Spirit is an absolute necessity for the spiritual creation process of salvation as it serves many functions.  It begets one as the son of God; it strengthens him to face trials and tests, to overcome problems and to build godly character, and it converts and changes the person's whole direction of mind from being carnal to being spiritual (Romans 8).  As such, the Holy Spirit is the seed of eternal life within us which at the resurrection will overtake our mortality with immortality and clothe us with eternal life (Romans 8: 11; 2 Corinthians 5:1-5).  It is the guarantee to a Christian of eternal life which can only be negated by willful neglect or deliberate rejection.

 

The sacrifice of Jesus Christ is clearly the focal point of the salvation process.  He was "put to death for our trespasses and raised for our justification" (Romans 4:25).  We "were reconciled to God by the death of His Son" (Romans 5:10) and are thereby justified through faith in that reality (Romans 5:1).  Yet salvation must go beyond justifying the past, it must continue into the future throughout one's life.  The true Christian is admonished to "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil. 2:5).  Indeed, the active participation of Jesus Christ in one's life through His Holy Spirit is absolutely essential for ultimate salvation.  As Romans 5:10 concludes "much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life."

 

This whole salvation process is by "grace" (Greek "favor"—Ephesians 2:8)—It is unmerited and freely given by God and cannot in any way be earned.  The Christian totally depends upon God's grace, initially for the forgiveness of sins he may commit subsequent to baptism.  Nevertheless, the individual must meet certain criteria in order to be given this free gift.

 

First, the person must live by and grow in faith—a total and real conviction.  One must have faith that God exists; faith that He will perform all of His biblical promises including that of granting him salvation (Romans 4); faith that the death of Jesus Christ will pay the penalty for one's sins and reconcile him to God; and faith that the resurrection of the living Jesus Christ will enable him to attain eternal life.

 

Furthermore, a Christian must not be disobedient, since continual sin that is not repented of disqualifies one from God's kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).  Salvation is surely not earned by obedience, because salvation can in no way be earned (cf Romans 4:4).  Nevertheless, Christ's response to one who asked Him what must be done in order to be saved was that the commandments must be kept (Matthew 19:17).  Furthermore, Christ told His disciples that at the resurrection He shall “reward every man according to his works" (Matthew 16:27; Revelation 22:12).

 

Note:  We are Justified by faith.  We must be totally committed to the Salvation process (overcoming sin and becoming like Christ).  Salvation is NOT earned.  Christ must live through you however.  If Christ is living through us, we are justified.

 

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True faith must come from God and has many facets, though the primary ones relate directly to Jesus Christ.   Faith in its simplest  but most profound manifestation is a deep personal belief in Jesus Christ; in the fact that He is our Savior; in the truth that His death paid the individual penalty of our personal sins.  Faith is the full confidence in the message Jesus brought.  This faith in Christ is the belief that leads us to baptism. (Baptism is merely an outward symbolic testimony that we have inward faith in Christ) Paul speaks of this faith in Galatians 2:16 when he remarks we "have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ."

 

Note:  We are justified when we believe in Jesus Christ and have faith in Him.

 

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The focal point of Paul's letter to the Galatians  does not deal with the abrogation of the law but rather with the question of how one is justified.  Justification means forgiveness for past sins—being counted as just and pure through Jesus' blood.

 

Note:  We become justified when our sins are forgiven.

 

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James repeatedly emphasizes that "faith without works is dead" (vv. 17, 20, 26), that the best way to show real faith is by works (v. 18), that by works faith is made perfect (v. 22) and "that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only" (v. 24).  James 4:11-12 is a proper conclusion to this theme, putting the question directly to any who would do away with God's law: "if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge."

 

Serving human beings is indeed one of the most spiritually penetrating concepts revealed in the Bible.  Only by loving one's fellow man can prayer, Bible study, meditation and fasting have any real meaning,

 

James put it succinctly: "So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead ... and I by my works will show you my faith ... You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone" (James 2:17, 18, 24).

 

It is with this overall understanding of God's ultimate plan well in mind that the Christian, as a truly begotten son, develops his intimate relationship with his spiritual Father through prayer, Bible study, meditation, fasting and the full living of the active Christian life.

 

Note:  We are justified by works.  These works are principles invoked by the power of Jesus Christ in us.  These are NOT works by our own hands.  It is Christ living through us.

 

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We are joint-heirs with Christ, and as a sure result, we shall all be glorified together with Him (Rom. 8:17).

 

Note:  The key words here are "shall all be".  No one has been glorified yet (except Christ).

 

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REGARDING THE STATEMENTS ABOUT WHO HAS ETERNAL LIFE:

 

Whether New or Old Testament, God knew who He was going to call and give the Holy Spirit.  He knew He would call Abraham, Moses, Noah and Elijah.  He knew He was going to call John, Peter, James and Paul.  All received the Holy Spirit.  All were faithful until the end.  None have been glorified YET.  They are dead and in the grave.  They will be glorified at that moment they become Spirit beings and begin eternal life.

 

This verse is showing the whole process from before the world was made to after Christ returns.  Let us break it down:

 

"whom he did predestinate"-----This was done before the world was made

 

"Them he called."-----This takes place during the life of the one predestinated.

 

"Them he also justified"-----by Faith, by forgiveness of sin, by the Salvation process, by Christ living through them and them accepting all this to take place in their lives.  This being done in the lifetime of the person called.

 

"Them he also glorified"  -----This has NOT happened yet

 

Romans 8:30

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

Take a look at what the commentary says on that final phrase and why it is past tense:

 

"them he also glorified":

 

Romans 8:30

And whom he justified, them he also glorified-brought to final glory (see Romans 8:17-18). Noble climax, and how rhythmically expressed! And all this is viewed as past; because, starting from the past decree of "predestination to be conformed to the image of God's Son," of which the other steps are but the successive unfoldings, all is beheld as one entire, eternally completed salvation. ~from Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown Commentary

 

Note:  It is in the past tense so that the plan of God is beheld as one entire, eternally completed salvation.  NO ONE HAS BEEN GLORIFIED.

 

NO ONE HAS YET RECEIVED ETERNAL LIFE.  Moses and Abraham died with a promise of eternal life, but they do not have it yet.

 

Being "glorified" and "receiving eternal life" ARE THE SAME THING.


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